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January 21, 2008
Toilet Bowl Blues
Q: Dear Ed, I hope you can help me. I have a brand new toilet, and since I was going away for a few months, I put a cleaner in the tank to keep the toilet fresh. Well, when I returned there was a blue line around the inside of the bowl at the water line. I could not clean it off with anything. So I used a pumice stone that did clean it after a lot of scraping. Well, now it's worse because the pumice stone left a rough circle in the bowl that the blue cleaner has now adhered to permanently. I'm embarrassed, it just looks awful. What can I do to fix this? Rose (Florida)
A: I'm sorry, Rose, but as soon as I read that you used a pumice stone to clean your toilet, I screamed out loud. Please don't beat yourself up over this; I can tell you are a nice, neat person who just wanted to make her new toilet look clean and pretty. But it sounds like your new toilet is trashed.
Believe it or not, most toilets are made out of china, just like a fine set of dinner plates. Now, picture washing your fine china cups and plates with a pumice stone.,What do you think would happen? Chances are the entire dinner set would have to be thrown out because of scratches and rough appearance. Also, once the protective glaze is removed, the clay-based materials can be stained permanently and you'll need to look for new china.
That is what has happened to the inside of your toilet bowl. I know of no way to repair your toilet, and I recommend replacing it. But chances are you have a two-piece toilet that consists of a tank and a bowl. The good news is that your plumber should be able to reuse the existing tank and accessories, and locate a new china bowl that matches your toilet. This will save you some money, so all is not lost.
It is said that everything in life is a lesson, and everyone should learn from Rose's experience: Never leave cleaners in an unused toilet for a long period of time, and washing a toilet with a stone can send you down a rocky road searching for china!
Posted by Ed Del Grande at January 21, 2008 12:58 AM
Comments
IT IS FASTER AND CHEAPER TO BUY A BRAND NEW TOILET. WHEN YOU BY SOMETHING IN PARTS IT COST A LOT MORE THAN BUYING IT ALONE. ALSO IF IT DOESN'T FIT, OR THE GASKETS LEAK THERE COULD BE MORE PROBLEMS. PLEASE NOTE THE PLUMBERS TIME IS WORTH MORE THAN A TOILET BOWL.
STEWART PRUZANSKY
NEW JERSEY LIC. MASTER PLUMBING # 4964
Posted by: PRUZANSKY PLUMBING at January 22, 2008 7:55 PM
yes i would like to know how to clean the glue stuff that the plumbers use to seal toilets with off. i have had this problem for 5 yrs now to no avail on cleaning it. any suggestions? i have used everything under the sun except a pumice stone. the glue is around the rim of the bowl and looks disgusting. i have to tell everyone what it is as they think i have cleaned everything but the toilet. thank you for any help.
Posted by: dee at January 22, 2008 8:31 PM
so how do you clean the bowl?
Posted by: Mary at January 22, 2008 9:25 PM
Just curious - do people really look inside their toilets often enough to care if it's stained? I don't.
Posted by: Stacy at January 22, 2008 9:49 PM
I used a popular blue toilet bowl freshener too. The underside of my wood enameled toilet seat became speckled with blue dots that would not come off at all. I wrote to the company that produces the blueing tablets explaining what had happened. They sent me a check for the cost of a new toilet seat. They claim they never had this problem before but they ante'd up real fast??!!Write a letter what have you got to lose....Jim
Posted by: brewskiboy at January 22, 2008 10:00 PM
In one of my bath room, I have a leak at the bottom of my trun off vavle, how do go about reparing it?
Posted by: Georgia at January 22, 2008 10:05 PM
For the life of me, I can't remember the name of the product that will fix this problem. Lowes sells a product to restore bathtubs that will work fine for commodes also. I am sure the sales person will know what I am trying to tell you about.
The only draw back is you will need to let completely dry which takes about 3 days before turning the water back on.
Posted by: Karen at January 22, 2008 10:21 PM
Tried various brands of cleaner to remove the ring at the water line of the bowl-unsuccessful. Is there any homemade recipe that will get this ring off or is it a trash? I believe the ring is just from hard water.
Posted by: denise at January 23, 2008 8:07 AM
how do you clean a toilet bowl that has stains on from the black rubber stopper or products put in the tank to help 'clean' the water?
Posted by: Anonymous at January 23, 2008 8:21 AM
Dear Ed,My crawl space has cement blocks in three sections the length of my space with small openings to go from one side to another which supports the joists and the floor above. The walls are 5 blocks high are covered with foam sheets on all sides the height of the blocks, the dirt ground is all covered with plastic sheeting about 2 or 3 mil thick.the only way to check for termites is to remove the insulation sheets at the footing.Any advice, and a better way to control moisture,oh, i have installed automatic reostates vents to control humidity,is there any thing more i can do ?
Posted by: Nick at January 23, 2008 9:26 AM
How do you remove a hard water ring around the water line in the toilet? Nothing I have tried seems to get rid of it.
Posted by: Donna at January 23, 2008 9:48 AM
I have found success removing the ring in a toilet bowl by using a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser w/extra power. Flush and while the water level is below it, rub the ring.
Posted by: IrishNana at January 23, 2008 11:18 AM
Try pouring a 2 liter of regular coca-cola slowly into the bowl and let it sit over night to clean the bowl, have heard this works
Posted by: Anonymous at January 23, 2008 12:08 PM
Have you tried a cleaner called "Zud"? That works for me, on hard water stains and rust.
Posted by: linda at January 23, 2008 12:23 PM
Have you tried using white vineger? We use it to decalcify our humidifier. Just let it soak for an hour or so and use a toothbrush to clean off the calcification.
Posted by: AB at January 23, 2008 12:28 PM
please let me know HOW you should clean the bowl ,seams to be a problem for many.
Posted by: maria at January 23, 2008 2:02 PM
Regarding the hard water ring - did you try vinegar? Let it sit, and you may need to add about 4 cups of hot water to make the water line a little taller than usual.
Regarding the blue ring - did you try letting bleach sit for a while; again, adding about 4 additional cups of water so your water line is a little taller than usual.
(I got these things from an old book written by Helouise - she knows how to clean everything!)
Posted by: Susan at January 23, 2008 2:07 PM
Remove ring at water line: try using Sno-Bol; it is more acidic than most cleaners; the ring is probably just lime. CLR works OK, too.
Store your bowl for a few months? I've had really good luck with (1) teaspoon of liquid bleach (the plain stuff), in the bowl's normal water, then wrap the bowl with plastic wrap. (Keeps the water from evaporating, so the trap remains functional). Then I draw on the top of the plastic wrap, so that people can see it's there! (A smiley face is fun). I've had great results for the past 10 years, with 6-month storage times.
Posted by: Bryce at January 23, 2008 2:33 PM
Have you tried using household vinegar to clean the toilet? I have pretty good luck with this for mineral deposits in the bowl. I use vinegar full strength to clean my coffee maker, and when that's done, I use the same vinegar to clean the bowl. A "2fer".
Posted by: Terry at January 24, 2008 9:37 PM
FYI- most manufactures warrantys are void if you use tank cleaners as they can damage some plastic and/or rubber tank parts
Posted by: Randy Will at January 28, 2008 10:54 PM
Dee,
Not real sure about what kind of glue you're actually talking about, or why it is sticking to a china bowl. One idea is to try baby oil. Rubbing it all over the glue and letting it sit for awhile should allow it to work under the glue and freeing it from the china.
Posted by: ERIC at January 30, 2008 3:13 PM
I have used pumice stones many times to clean toilet bowls with no problems. Perhaps the lady used the wrong kind. The ones made for cleaning toilets are sold at plumbing supply stores. I've never seen them at any Lowes or Home Depot. they are very soft and disintegrate quickly. If you use the right stuff you shouldn't have any problems.
Posted by: Jay at February 3, 2008 11:56 AM
