What are some of the best home toilet's to buy that don't clog so easy,some home builder's put the cheapest toilet's they can find when building
your home.
Thank You,
William

***William, good question! If you go off the EPA WaterSense info then you should find something that saves water and flushes well, I think that would be a good place to start.***

OK, are the new low flush ones better? I remember the first ones had to be flushed twice so you still used the same amount of water. AND I am concerned about the lack of water in the sewer lines and more money spent on repairs there.

We ordered a toilet that uses less water for a liquid flush and more water for a solid flush, we're picking it up tomorrow. It's made by Kohler.

As a Government contractor, we have installed water saving toliets but have had problems with clogged lines. Seems like most users flush twice so what realy is being saved????

So if one flush isn't doing the job, just flush a few more times. If worse comes to worse, keep a two gallon bucket in the tub and flush manually by pouring a hefty dose of tub water down the hatch.

Say, where can I get one of those 7 gallon pots? It would take a lot of water to equal the cost of calling a plumber out just once to clean out my clogged up sewer line. Here's to the 60's!

Isn't a low flow toilet kind of like having a
Hummer SUV with a really tiny gas tank?
If you have to flush more than once for those
really big...pitstops, then doesn't that kind
of defeat the purpose? I don't expect a toilet
to be like a "log" flume, but PLEASE give us
toilets that will flush properly without fear
of clogging, backing up all over the floor or
having to flush more than once for the same...
deposit. I have no problem with being more
"green", but not if it means my bathroom floor
is going to become more...brown/yellow in the
process.

Last year, my husband replaced out 1940's toilet with a Toto. It was the top of the line but we got a great price on it. Regardless, it's been worth it. My son was always clogging the toilet. One time in a year, I've had to pour a bucketfull of water down to finish the flush. ONE TIME.

I installed an American Standard Champion II (HET I think)this past summer and am well satisfied as to the flushing and water savings. I really didn't think the pot would flush a large solid but I have only had to plunge once since installing.

How come I can water my lawn at 20 gallons per minute for an hour on my private well but I have to use a water saving toilet at 1.6gpf that discharges into my private septic system?

Perhaps we should take the leftovers from the plumbing calls and send them to our congressman, along with those plumbing bills

Just great, I work as a plumber and can tell you that we do everything in our power to make these things work, often just changing out the factory flapper will make them flush better, but for the most part any low consumption toilet is just gonna cause problems, if it does get out of the bowl it has to travel at least 100 feet befor eit gets to the city's main sewer, which as stated were designed for 5 gallon toilets, which is causing a lot of problem for city workers, too much debris and too little water to carry it for treatment, thses things along with water saving shower heads ect. should be banned, becase like I said most of us plaumbers are taking the water saving stuff out so that we have a happy customer..

I recently purchased a condo with a new toilet that is AWFUL!!!! Water sits very low in the bowl and it flushes up rather than down around the sides. It's ALWAYS dirty looking. I've learned to flush often during "special" events (if you know what I mean). But, if you are not used to this kind of toilet (visitors) you can leave a pretty ugly mess -- rather embarrassing for everyone!!

Flushing waste with potable water is insane, especially in times of ever increasing droughts and water shortages. So is putting 3 or 4 bathrooms in homes built in an area with an already low water table. But, this is the U.S., so what else would you expect?

If we REALLY cared about saving water, high-efficiency composting toilets would be required, not just low-flow water wasters. Unfortunately, in most areas, composting toilets are still equated with outhouses, and if you try to put one in when you remodel, you run into permit problems, unless you're way out in the woods somewhere.
New composting toilets are a far cry from a hole in the ground, and should be seriously considered as a viable alternative--and building regs should allow for them!

we moved into a new homw 5 months ago with Toto toilets. They are amazing. Flushes like a commercial type and fills in 20 seconds. A little more expensive than typical fixture, but worth it.

****Yes, Toto offers several 1.28 GPF models that would comply with the new regulations coming out.***

I was in a severe earthquake many years ago, and those big old tanks were the only potable water we had until emergency crews could truck it in. I have an empty plastic milk carton, top cut off, in my old monster's tank to save water. Lots of my friends live in places where builders and apartment owners have installed low flow, low water level toilets and they flush poorly and seem to get odiferous, probably due less water, encouraging the use of chemicals and air fresheners, which can't be healthy. I'll take my low tech "green" milk carton over their fancy toilets any day.

Who is Congress kidding? Do they have these toilets in THEIR homes? Ours are constantly getting plugged. My plumber told me that the current water savers will only move solid waste 30 feet in a pipe--not enough to get it to the main sewer lines.

I have a really amazing plan for all the green conscious users; it's called an outhouse. Never worry about plugged lines! Never uses an ounce of water! Doesn't need an ounce of environmentally unfriendly toilet bowl cleaner. Can be a wee bit cold in winter. A little on the odiferous side in the summer. With proper planning and design, this problem is easily dealt with.
Keep the gov't out of plumbing! They have a long and distinguished track record of screwing everything up rather than finding good solutions! Let the market decide how best to handle some of these issues. You would be amazed at how ingenious some people can be when there is money to be made at fixing a non-existing problem.

How come I can't find a dual flush toilet to save my life? Why reduce the average flush when the average flush in a healthy human would be liquid, and could thus be handled by the small flush function of a dual flush? Then you still have the power for the big jobs. Am I crazy for thinking this way?

We did a bathroom remodel a couple of years ago in a 50+ year old house, and put in a Toto toilet. It looks good, cleans easily, and fills 'the green bill' successfully, saving water - yet flushing very well.

How come the goverment wants to lower the limit on the amount of water a toilet uses, but people can build a shower with a half a dozen 2.5 gpm showerheads and body sprays that waste more water than the toilet does. They should plumb all new houses with a 100 gal cistern and have all the grey water from the shower run into it. then filter it and use that water to flush the toilets

Dual flush, I found a company in Canada with something they called flush magic - it has a light and heavy setting on the flush handle, that changes how much water goes out of the tank, and at less than $20 it seems like a reasonable alternative to having insufficent flushing for solid waste. http://www.magicflush.com/

Is there still a bootleg market for thrones from Canada ?? When we built in the mid '90's, and since the low volume toilets were getting a bad wrap, it was possible to drive over the border and invest in the classic models which were still being sold there. Have they upgraded their standards ??

the problem we see in the service industry is the toilets will flush, but there is not enough water to wash the solids to the main therefore causing stoppages in the building and house drain lines. it is more of a problem in small commercial buildings where water is not being run from other fixtures to keep the drains clean.

Thanks Jerry! Great idea, I will seriously look into that one!

I am growing tired of low-flow complaints. Here's the beef: ANY low-flow older than 5-7 years just needs to be replaced. The mfrs listened to complaints made in the 90s & solved all of the problems by redesigning traps & bowl shapes. We had a 1995 Amer. Std. & it was AWFUL - clogged every 2-3 jobs. Acidentally chipping the tank was the best thing that ever happened to us - we replaced it w/a Glacier Bay (Home Depot in-house brand) 1 piece a year ago & now store the plunger in the garage - used it 1X. If I had any clue the cheapest 1 piece would be so good, I wouldn't have spent double on a Kohler 1 piece that works as well, but is a little more refined.
We seriously looked a Toto dual-flushers before buying the Kohler Santa Rosa for the master bath, but had fears over failure of the pressure-assist mechanism. Otherwise, we would have gone with the Toto.
To reiterate, there is no reason whatsoever anyone should have a pot made before 2003, its either going to be troublesome or wasteful.

If anyone has a Kohler toilet youi can convert it to about a 3 gallon per flush unit by simply changing the flapper that is hooked to the flush lever, buy a Korky flapper and take out the one that has the foam ball on it and you will be amazed at how much better it works, anytime we install a new toilet we do this and have never had a call back or complaint, and it's the 1st thing we check when we clear a plugged up toilet, very simply put the more water per flush the less likely you are to se me the plumber..

I wrote earlier about a toilet in my condo and how much I hated it! Well...only this last week did I discover that if I hold the handle down a VERY short time, water not only comes up from the bottom BUT some also comes from the front (couple of holes under the rim). Wonder if this would be considered a "dual flush" toilet??? I forgot to check this morning, but I think it's a Kohler toilet. The base of the toilet has a see-through hole in it...haven't seen that with any other toilets??? Anyway, I guess it's not so bad after all?????

How in the world do they think these things save water? You have to flush them 2 or 3 or sometimes 4 times to make them work properly! If the enviro-nazis mandate even less water, it will only get worse. Not only that, but the low flush toilets splash, they smell worse, and they have to be cleaned more often. I think low flush toilets probably use MORE water than the old ones. Has anyone done a study that shows they actually conserve water?

Pretty soon the government will just tell us to go out in the back yard and take a shovel with us. I think someone could have a great career as a toilet smuggler out of Canada.

We put in a Toto dual flush toilet in last year. We love it. Never have to plunge it (unlike our other old style niagra falls flusher). Often, I use the low flush for the big dump. No problems. Maybe our pipes our at just the right angle.
And we noticed a large difference in water bill immediatly (though we could have had a small leak in the old toilets valve, don't know) Only problem is if you don't hit the water, you are more likely to have poop smears. But hey, it is a toilet, it's not like you are going to bathe in it. Clean it with a brush, and you're good to go.

Those with the double flush complaints are exaggerating, or have some elephant sized BM's.

I used a composting toilet while visiting New Zealand. I was amazed how well it worked, no bad smell. I'd put one in our basement, but the wife nixed that idea.

I also saw a cool looking green toilet product ..looked great for a power outage too..lol

I moved into my new home three years ago and absolutely detest my 1.6gpf toilets. I have to flush multiple times to keep my toilets from clogging. I am a tree hugger, but do not see how I am helping the environment when I feel that I am using the same amount of water if not more to keep my pipes free of debris and to prevent clogs. My toilet plunger has received much use. What seems like a great conservation idea needs to go back to the drawing board.