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November 2, 2008
Bathroom Installation Checklist
Pound-for-pound remodeling a bathroom is one of the toughest jobs we have. They're even tougher than kitchens. Think about it, the customer can always eat out.
Oddly, in most bathroom build-outs there's almost nothing skill-wise that's totally elusive to most decent carpenters. You might do some basic framing, replace a window, hang drywall, tile, install some flooring, sub out the plumbing/electrical, install a tub…Hey wait a minute—you have to do all this in a 6 x 8 space!!!! You can barely breath in a 6x8 space, much less build a complete house within a house, which is really what you're doing.
It's not the little things that can derail a project like this, it's doing them all, rapid fire in a small space—and in what's arguably the most personal space in someone's home.
To get things off on the right foot, I do a lot of preparation. And one thing I like to do is go over a checklist of things with the customer that are important to the project. That I have a list caught a lot of guys' attention during the www.Kohler.com www.SterlingPlumbing.com presentation at www.TheRemodelingShow.com. My checklist includes:
- Mapping out the yard and the house: where can I place materials, where can I park, do I need parking permits, what are the restrictions, where can my guys park?
- Where can I put my dump trailer or dumpster? Do you have prize marigolds you need access to a dumpster might block?
- How can I enter and exit the house? What doors can I and can't I use?
- Do you have pets? Can you please see to ALL of their needs so we can work?
- Can we take over a room inside the house for staging materials that can't go outside, like bath furniture.
- In a gut job, I emphasize this verbally and in email: YOUR HOUSE IS GOING TO GET DUSTY. I will do my best to minimize the dust, but I can't control it entirely. Where there's budget, I include a maid service to do a final clean-up after I'm done.
- Halo Effect: In a gut job there is a lot of bang-and smash work and this can dislodge drywall, plaster, whatever in other rooms. I let them know this ahead of time and that fixing it will be an upcharge.
After we do all this, we can actually do some work on the bathroom.
Posted by Mark Clement at November 2, 2008 12:43 PM
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We will be putting in a completly new bathroom in our lower level this winter, what do you reccomend for our toilet? Overhead plumbing,up-flush toilet, what type? Can you help in this matter. thanks, Jo Hillberg
Posted by: Jo Hillberg at November 11, 2008 10:40 PM
Jo--It sounds like you're doing a basement bathroom where the drain stack is above the floor.
I would look into a mascerating pump that goes in the floor or behind a false wall (or it can even remain visible.) A company called Sani-Flo makes a compact system that liquifies--then ejects--liquids and solids. Check with them about toilet types if you use their system.
There are also larger ejector pumps (they chew up the or grind the waste but don't liquify it) and typically they are installed below the slab. My understanding is that with this system you can use any type of commode you want.
The key is to size it right so that whatever pump you use you get all the material well into the drain system.
Good luck--
Posted by: Mark at November 12, 2008 11:07 AM
