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June 20, 2007

NAHB Continues Fight for Immigration Reform

I think I really hit a hot button a few weeks ago when I wrote about the immigration bill that was under consideration in Congress. While that bill was (for all intents and purposes) defeated, it apparently is far from dead. And NAHB has started a grass-roots campaign among its members to write to their senators and urge passage of meaningful immigration reform that would be fair to everyone involved.

No one is in favor of illegal immigration. (Well, except maybe the people who are immigrating illegally.) NAHB's proposed changes address the need for immigration reform but also consider the need for the workers -- an estimated 20% of all construction workers -- who are immigrants. For example, the existing bill would require immigrants to go back to their native countries for one out of every three years. That creates problems for employers who need a stable workforce, as well as for the workers themselves.

NAHB also points out that under the proposed legislation, contractors could be held responsible if one of their subcontractors was caught using undocumented workers. That's a valid concern; contractors should not have to go through the paperwork of documenting people who aren't even their employees.

Check out the article on NBN Online, and let me know what you think about this complex topic. One thing for sure: There are no easy answers. I'd love to hear any ideas you might have to resolve it.

Posted by Marjie O'Connor, HGTVPro.com Staff at June 20, 2007 12:31 PM

Comments

Companies need to be held accountable for their actions. A major American company that I work for hires contractors with over 90% illegal alien workers. Lower management off the record says because "the company saves a lot of money-- nearly 35%". The previous contractor used Hispanic employees also, but they were nearly all legally here.

Posted by: george at June 20, 2007 2:50 PM

I was a contented worker/ super until I lost my job to an illegal who worked for 1/10th my hard earned wage. Now I am an owner and the answer is simple. THE SYSTEM AIN'T BROKE. No fix required.

Bring home our troops and put them on the borders and that's that. Enforcement is the only solution for legal hard working Americans.
Wolf

Posted by: R Wolf Stiles at June 20, 2007 3:16 PM

There should be no discussion until the border is secure. Kennedy promised in 1986 that was the final amnesty, now he and friends want another 12 - 20 mil, plus family for 3 times that, because they did not protect our borders.
No way, the Fed Govt cannot be trusted, seal the border, take inventory and then be very particular about who gets to stay, and no extended family pass for entry.

Joe

Posted by: Joe at June 20, 2007 4:36 PM

Marjie, you start out addressing "illegals" and QUICKLY switch to just immigrants. No one in the great nation has a problem with legal immigrants but "illegal" is "illegal" period.

Posted by: Tom at June 20, 2007 4:44 PM

We passed laws last year that were supposed be upheld and that would strengthen our borders. What happened? Why aren't they being enforced? I believe that we need to enforce the laws we already have before we create more. We are slowly going bankrupt educating and providing medical care for these illegal immigrants. They are also taking American jobs...some migrant labor is needed but it needs to be legal labor not illegal. Concentrate on our legal immigration system and streamline the way it works instead of overwelming it with more paper work for more people.

Posted by: Cindy at June 20, 2007 5:20 PM

In case no one has been listening. Someone has to put checks on OUR border patrol. They have lists of drug runners, their trucks/semis, known vans, cars, coyotes that frequent the border crossings and are not searched. One BP agent (retired) sat with a reporter and they counted trucks, vans, autos just whizzing by. Other tourists were stopped, inspected, lectured then let go. Nightline or MSNBC reported the same thing but with the camera rolling. One man reported that he and his gardener took his auto to gardener's relative in TJ. Upon return, Gardener just passed, but the Man was stopped and asked to empty suitcases, bags, everything. He was so mad, he emptied his wife's purse on the hood and glared. When he met the gardener a few blocks away, he asked, "why didn't they stop you? Because they don't have to." Why not check the bank balances and off shore accounts of the BP agents??? I would dare MR. BUSH. The 911 folks came in from CANADA, not Mexico, and just drove on in even when the BP had pics and evidence in the offices; BP agents just let them on through. Thanks for letting me vent!!

Posted by: Linda Quinteros at June 20, 2007 7:25 PM

Remember Americans it is the people who make a country great. Not the country who make people great.

Posted by: Ron Boren at June 20, 2007 8:23 PM

Illegal is illegal! If these people that we are talking about are illegal, we need to enforce present laws, not make new ones to ignore. If I am not obeying sped limit laws, I am punished, continue to ignore speed limit laws, I eventually will have my driving privilege taken away. Let's enforce the immigration laws like we do our speed limit laws. Fine lawbreakers and if they do not eventually become compliant with applicable laws, send them home (revoke their privilege). The laws we need to be passing are English language laws. And anyone permitted to work here, and their school aged family members who may be living here with them, must pass an English competency test prior to issuance of work permit.

Posted by: John Shelton at June 20, 2007 9:25 PM

Right off the bat, the employers of the illegal immigrants should have to shoulder the cost of any social benefits that a documented/undocumented worker requires. Don't even get me started this "tip of the iceberg". (Student aid for illegals?) Amnesty was already given.......

Posted by: Larry at June 20, 2007 9:38 PM

I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS,IF THAT MEANS WALLS ERECTED,THEN SO BE IT...I AM SICK AND TIRED OF MY BILLS,STATEMENTS,INSTRUCTIONS,etc.COMING IN ENGLISH & MEXICAN! [YES!MEXICAN...THEY ARE NOT FROM SPAIN ] MY RELATIVES ON BOTH SIDES WERE FROM EUROPE. THEY ARRIVED IN AMERICA AND ENTERED THRU ELLIS ISLAND WAY BACK WHEN...THEIR BILLS,ETC. WERE N O T!!! PUT IN THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE. THEY HAD TO LEARN ENGLISH AND WERE PROUD TO DO SO...I COULD GO ON & ON, BUT THE END RESULT WOULD BE THE SAME. WE NEED TO DEPORT ALL 12 MILLION ILLEGALS AND START OVER WITH A PLAN THAT REALLY WORKS. THEY CAN'T CONTINUE TO SNEAK INTO OUR COUNTRY AND EXPECT US TO FOOT THE BILL..

Posted by: JANIE at June 20, 2007 10:57 PM

Our country is being trampled upon and taken over by illegals for the benefit of employers who want cheap labor. It's not cheap for the country, however, when you factor in the millions of taxpayer dollars that are spent on these illegals for education, medical care, incarceration, etc. Our country has also paid with the lives of many of our citizens that have been killed through violence and DUIs commited by illegals. If we don't quickly secure our borders and fine the guilty employers now, the character of this country will forever be changed. Contact your US Congressmen ASAP.

Posted by: Mary at June 20, 2007 11:00 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edvorak%2Eorg%2Fblog%2F

The owners of the building companies simply want cheap labor. Deport the illegals and raise the wages for the citizens. The link I provided proves my point. It is a video showing a law firm instructing clients on how to avoid hiring citizens.

Posted by: David Schneider at June 21, 2007 12:44 AM

The GAO (Government) stated that there are 600,000 illegals in jails/prisons in 50 states. Why are our elected officials trying to give them amnesty (they are not exempted from the bill) and we are left footing the bill for their time in and the privilege of having them as repeat offenders.
I was coerced by my home insurance Co(no longer), to go with a roofer who had all illegals none spoke english and they messed up replacing my skylights. The insurance copany did nothing under the warranty when they started leaking.

Posted by: Don at June 21, 2007 9:01 AM

Why not document state for state, You know of course our american people are married to these folks, so okay you take the breadwinner away and here comes a broke state, come on wake up, these people do our work for us, work that my generation did, but no longer, so document yes, but state by state, put some of these state employees to work. Lets get them to where we are not going broke all over, hospitals and basically everything, they are here to stay so get real, lets all help........Faye

Posted by: Faye at June 21, 2007 10:39 AM

I just have to say this. When I was hired on to my job I was required to show that I was an American citizen and I had my SSN. All employers ask for this. Why is it so hard for the builders? Everyone has to have a SSN or a green card. They then know that they have hired on an illegal or not. I think that is just a bunch of crap. They just want to hire on the illeagals cause this way they do not have to pay what they normally would to an American. These people do not even like us! Remember back in the sixties, it was said that America would be taken down within with out a shot being fired. When I watched them take our flag down off of the flag pole and put the Mexican flag up and then put ours on underneath it flying upside down, I was really upset about this. Every American should be. If they feel that proud about their country they need to go back and live in Mexico. I have worked hard to make a living and pay taxes just as every other American born and raised here. The Trillions that we have spent on these people out of our Social Security which is since 1996 $397,450,739,563.00 would have built a real nice electric fence. This amount does not include the incarcerations, or the nine million jobs that are taken from our very own. Thank you for this chance to speak a little of my mind. I have so much more but running out of room.

Posted by: abumgarner at June 21, 2007 10:58 AM

Secure the border first. If the twenty-four hour fingerprint check proposed in this bill catches an illegal immigrant that has to be deported to Mexico for whatever cause and the border is not secure, what is to keep this person from returning? Also, shouldn't we secure our borders for fear of terrorist too?

Posted by: cindy at June 21, 2007 11:03 AM

Why aren't we marching and carrying signs like the illegals did. They protested and marched so they would be heard. Why don't the american citizens do the same. The government needs to hear us now. The illegals are breaking the law by being in this country. If we broke the law, we would be punished by being sent to jail. They need to be punished also by being rounded up and sent back to where they came from.

Posted by: elt at June 21, 2007 7:46 PM

We are debating immigration issues and reform when millions of people are looking at us in dismay! No matter who, or whom we are; we should never put down the merits of America. She is to be respected at any cost and over any issues that has not been lawful pursuited. No one has any ill-feelings toward illegals, our Immigration Laws has been in limbo for a very long time. Those who are here in America illegal do not serve themselves in a rightous manner; thus they will be on the run for a very long time no matter what the outcome of the immigrtion reform. Home building industry will take a hard blow because people are not buying homes as they were 2 years ago. Other work done by many of the illegals should never be looked on as "jobs america laborer" will not do because illegals do themselves a disservice by taking jobs with little pay; it give America citizens a dim overview of them and it draws a very unlikeable picture that people think its all they can do! It do not matter who hire them; what job they do, monies that is paid to them; what this all boil downs to; are they willing to do these jobs for small wages for the rest of their lives and are they willing to become professionals. No job, no matter what it is will continue to be fruitful. America has construction technicians, this cover a wide area and they can do those same jobs...but are not willing to do them for small wages the illegals are doing. In other words, illegals are branded with signs; its all they can do...none of them have been trained to perform in an office setting. While our history is rich, it do not play in the same fields that people want it to play in. A man of these United States of America and the Americas businesses should want to have a man work for a decent salary; he should be able to support his family and produce a good product for consumption. I think we as citizens of these United States of America are seeing the changing in time where we are on the outside looking in!

Posted by: RWH at June 21, 2007 10:46 PM

"NAHB's proposed changes address the need for immigration reform but also consider the need for the workers -- an estimated 20% of all construction workers -- who are immigrants."
NAHB proposed changes do not address the need for immigration reform! NAHB can't even get the language right! An illegal alien is not an immigrant but a criminal & anyone knowingly employing a criminal is aiding & abbetting a criminal; of course criminal behavior such as this gives you an economic advantage.

Posted by: Roger A. Wacek at June 21, 2007 11:49 PM

If you look at a map you will see that Mexico is next to the United States so it's only logical that the majority of undocumented aliens are Mexican. There are many ideas and opinions about what the solution is for illegal immigration but this fact is true, There are company's and people willing to hire undocumented aliens to make a profit for financial gain. If this issue continues, it does'nt matter if they come from Mexico or China, they will still come.

Posted by: Gerry at June 22, 2007 1:00 AM

Twelve to twenty million illegal aliens didn't get across our borders by accident. This is a determined move by globalists, bankers, and big business to turn the U.S.A. into a borderless non-nation, so that illegals from Mexico and Canada can come here and take away the few remaining jobs that remain since our government allowed big business to move its plants overseas where slave labor still exists. It will be one big North American Union, and we can kiss our sovereignty goodbye. Every year the big business/bankers/globalists (nicknamed the "Bilderburgs") meet to determine our fate. They just met in Istanbul, Turkey. These semi-secret meetings have been going on ever since the Federal Reserve Bank was created back in the early 1900s. The Fed is not a federal institution, but a group of 12 mostly European banks (run by Europeans like the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, etc.) that has taken over the economy of this country. The Fed prints money now with nothing to back it up since we went off the silver and gold standards. The gold (if there really is any) in Fort Knox does not belong to the U.S., but rather to the Federal Reserve, although it is guarded by the U. S. Army. In another few decades, I don't think we will be much different from any other third world country. No unions, over populated, with a few very rich people, and the rest of us back to what we were before we emigrated (legally for the most part) from Europe, etc.--peasants.

Posted by: Rosemary at June 22, 2007 1:48 AM

Do you realize that the illegal immigrants who are here now and who will flood the this country expecting "another" amnisty, as they did with the last one, are mostly school drop outs. What chance do they have for growth and advanement?? They will turn the USA into a third world nation, drain our social and medical services, causing more and more hospitals to close and in 20 years they will start collecting $30,000 a (much less then they have contributed)year in SS, just when it is supposed to be in trouble. Right now illegal immigrants are receiving more in FREE services then most Americans with the same needs and not paying into the system that supports those very services, including education. They refuse to learn and speak English as immigrants of the past,nor do they make any attempt to asimulate (sp?). We cannot absorb more and more immigrants, legal, or illegal, period. And do you really think that these illegals are going to step forward to pay fines with money that most do not have. Who is to say just how much they owe in past and pessent taxes (we would be in jail for tax evasion). Breaking the law is breaking the law and is punishable by the laws that are already on the books, no matter the crime. Go to Numbers USA.com to send a FREE fax to your Sen. and Congressperson and tell them how you feel; and make sure to tell them that you will vote for their opponent if there is a priemary and if they make it to the election. Keep on them, they are suppose to REPRESENT US THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!!!

Posted by: Kacey at June 22, 2007 9:46 AM

I loved today's comments June 22, 07. I would love to see these same comments reach your reps. in the Senate and Congress, even Pres. Bush. You can do this FREE on numbers usa.com via fax, or get your reps. address and phone number. It's our only way to speak out on this issue. A recent poll puts our approval of the Senate at 14% and Bush at 25% this must mean something to them and the illegal ailian issue, jobs lost overseas and to Mexico are the hotest issues.
We may not ralley in the streets, but we can ralley with words and phone calls and not let up! Save us from becoming a Third World Nation.

Posted by: Kacey at June 22, 2007 10:07 AM

There's been a bit of a mix-up. I'm responsible for the post credited to "Gerry." And Kacey, it doesn't matter if a million of us march on Washington, D. C.-- the move to turn us into another "European Union" is being done by some of the same architects that created the Soviet Union. Most Americans don't realize that the European bankers--along with tycoons like J. P. Morgan and the Rockefellers--created the "Federal Reserve Bank" which was the beginning of the end of American sovereignty. The very ones we have elected have been sold on this idea. After all--they won't be affected by it; they've got theirs. There is a little newspaper that is still putting out the truth: American Free Press. They have a web site. www.americanfreepress.net By the way, the American Communist party is alive and well. I recently read that they were one of the big sponsors of the demonstrations by illegal aliens last year. Rosemary

Posted by: Rosemary at June 22, 2007 10:58 AM

God Bless this nation! What message are we sending to our children on respect for our laws and our society? Illegal is illegal, period. I feel one part of the solution may lie in not granting citizenship to "anchor babies". All "anchor babies" born to illegal immigrants should not have any US status and that is an issue that has not been noted any where in the press or by the government. I feel if the parents entered illegally then the point is moot as far as legal status for thier babies born here. How many would be so willing to continue on this path if they knew the children born here would have no legal standing and would have to apply just like every one else-maybe even have to pay an additional fine. Maybe that could be used as a deterrent as well. I am all for helping others-but Mexico must take responsibility or be brought up on Human Rights abuses if it is so bad for these people. I vote with my dollars-I do not use any services or contractors who have not validated the identification of thier workers. If they do not know who they are(ie, criminal records, child molestors) then they are not gaining access to my home,or family. Maybe our troops are fighting in the wrong part of the world for the wrong group of under represented and under privilaged people. Secure our borders, Ports, and strengthen our Home Land security efforts. If the Builders and Contractors still do not want to make a stand and really do the right thing by this society,instead of worrying about thier profit margins-then savvy consumers will start to ask the hard questions and START VOTING WITH THIER DOLLARS!!!

Posted by: Diana Carol at June 23, 2007 2:21 AM

I have run a construction company for many years. Have never hired an illegal and would never. It's bad enough when there are so many unemployed workers who know their trade out of work, but a real slap in the face when illegals are hired instead of them to work on a project. Shame on the greed of builders who use illegals. the lawsuits in LA for shoddy workmanship should tell them something.

Posted by: Lynn at June 24, 2007 9:15 AM

We need good immigration reform or the federal goverment to enforce the laws already on the books
don't talk to me about need workers..all that is getting cheap labor for a larger bottom line
i will not allow any south of the boarder workers on my land to do anything...keep american workers employed first at a real living wage

Posted by: RICK at June 24, 2007 5:29 PM

Immigration procedures are there for a reason. Remember 9-11? I would think that security and background checks in this day and age should be more important than ever.

Just because certain interest groups want labor they can exploit with sub-standard wages, doesnt mean that what's *really* important should be put aside.

Contractors and subcontractors who hire illegal aliens should be accountable, punished, and even imprisoned. If they are not accountable enough, the growing influx of illegals will continue to grow exponentially. This should hold for the construction industry, agriculture industry, and wherever else. Everyone should have to show proof of citizenship, their greencard, work permit, or visa, before they are hired to do any job.

Posted by: Scarlett at June 25, 2007 4:47 PM

This is a touchy subject...protest against corporate companies who started all this cheap labor way back when...1920???It wasn't only the mexicans but the asian also who worked hard under the hot sun and endured hardships that were brought by their "Bosses". It's these companies who have become rich by contracting out jobs to other countries which are called "Call Centers" like the Phillipines and India. These illigals search for a better life for their families because their own countries fail them and they see America as their savior. Too bad most of them are not aware that they cause a problem by being here illegally, they only see survival. Americans are truly blessed living in this great nation while we focus on the Mexicans who is going to focus on other great threats or have we forgotten the Twin Towers! I have not seen or heard anything on homeland security only "The Mexicans..immigration.." Have we forgotten how we acquired America? What happened to the Native Americans?

Posted by: ANTY at June 26, 2007 12:59 PM

OK,, Please remember that when someone is doing something illegal they are criminals period! We have enough problems without allowing criminals to be rewarded for their crimes. How to solve this? One. allow Local Police, Sheriff Departments, and State Police to arrest and deport illegal aliens. Right now these agencies are not allowed to do this as it is up to the INS to arrest and deport illegals. Here in Florida there are 80 agents assigned to fullfil this duty and there are thousands of illegals. Some do a good job,, many do not. I know of a real criminal that was arrested for Robbery with Battery (who badly beat a 68 year old lady when she refused to give up her purse) It was proven he was illegal, BUT he was released on bail as any American has the right to. He now cnnot be found as the illegals are hiding him.

On another note, I was harressed by the IRS and my bank accounts and wages seized, Why you ask? Because I did not pay income tax on wages my SS# said I made in a town called Tyler in Texas. It took a bankrupcy and 3 federal hearings before I convince the IRS and the Judge there was no way I could work 60 hours a week in Winter Haven Florida and a 60 to 80 hours week in Texas, at the same time. Talk about idiots the IRS agent kept telling me to prove I did not work those hours in Texas and until I did they would continue to hold wht they had seized. The Judge, luckly, had a brain and asked the IRS how I did it sence there are only 168 hours a week and the IRS had proven I was working a total of 140 to 130 hours a week?? When did I sleep and when and how did I travel 1200 miles to a second job. Altogether I lost lawyers fees, time at work and my credit rating,, all becasue a illegal was using my SS# So sure builders hire the illegal that ruined my life. I just wish the IRS would give me the builders name, For I would sue the heck out of that gready (cuss word cuss word) that wanted to save his company a few dollars!!

Thanks for understanding my point of view, Please have a great day

Phil

Posted by: Phil at June 26, 2007 5:22 PM

This blog was opened up to discuss illegal aliens, not 9/11, although securing the border would benefit the USA on both the terrorist front as well as the issue of the criminal act of illegally entering this country to work. What hasn't been brought up enough is the issue of OTM's (other than Mexicans) crossing our borders. Who are these people and what do they want? The Ft. Dix terrorists came across illegally in Texas, per a TV interview with their father who proudly stated they paid $6000. to a coyote to come from Mexico into the US via Texas. Part of the fallout of the Iraq war is the US is now taking on illegal aliens in the form of Iraqi refugees attempting to get away from the war in their own country.

Posted by: Linda at June 26, 2007 5:43 PM

The country should take a lesson from California. In the last decade 84 hospitals in California have closed, while our population has increased. Why? Because Federal mandates that no one can be turned down at a hospital, all must be treated, and that includes illegal aliens. Hospitals close and go bankrupt when they can't make a profit. They can't make a profit when they are treating and delivering babies for the 10 million illegal aliens in this state. So, if I sustained a life threatening emergency, due to the increasing distance between hospitals, I could very well die before I was trucked until the next available hospital. Not to mention, our city services have gone downhill, even though we pay more and more taxes. Illegals don't pay taxes, they all work under the table in construction here. All the fantastic craftsman I know have lost thier jobs due to these guys be willing to work for 10 bucks an hour. Many cities in California now REQUIRE that you are biligual in order to work for the city. That happened to me recently in Oakland when I went to apply for a city job. Watch out America! If the borders are not secured, this will soon happen to you too. The politicians said they would build the fence and secure the border, the last time around. ANY POLITICIAN WHO VOTES FOR THIS AMNESTY BILL SHOULD BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE! PERIOD. END OF STORY.

Posted by: Kim Terry at June 26, 2007 6:54 PM

The Republicans created mass hysteria behind the illegal immigrant problem and Now they cannot put a lid on it. Without the illegals, the U.S. economy would crash; period. This will have a ripple effect worldwide. The uneducated populace and the opportunists politicians are the only ones against it. Unfortunately, the Republicans fueled this and cant figure out how to accommodate the scare mongoring with what is necessary and correct for america and the world. If the immigration bill before us is not perfect, its the best a bunch of politicians can negotiate. Bet you one thing; if it does not pass now, it will pass in four years looking exactly like this one.

Posted by: Manuel at June 26, 2007 7:54 PM

I AM AN RN. I HAVE, ALSO, BEEN A TRUCK DRIVER.
SO I HAVE SEEN THE LABOR SIDE OF THIS IN
48 STATES. (1990'S TO 2001). I HAVE WORKED WITH A LOT OF FOREIGN PEOPLE AND THEY WERE WONDERFUL.

IT WAS UNBELIVABE WHERE WE FOUND THESE PEOPLE
WORKING, THAT SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS COUNTRY. THEY NEVER WORE NAME TAGS. NONE SPOKE ENGLISH
UNLESS YOU SAID GREEN CARD OR MONEY. THEN THEY
WERE VERY FLUENT.

WE DO NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT
DISEASES THEY HAVE THAT WILL AFFECT OUR SOCIETY.
WE DO NOT KNOW THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORY. WE PAY
FOR FOOD, MEDICAL CARE AND EDUCATION FOR MOST
OF THEM. WE CANNOT GET THESE SERVICES FOR
OURSELVES OR OUR CHILDREN. I VOTE FOR THE
ELLIS ISLAND APPROACH ON ALL ENTRY POINTS OF
EMPLOYMENT. WITH TODAY'S TESTING IT SHOULD NOT
BE AS LONG. PLEASE LOOK AT THE DISEASES WE ARE
EXPOSED TO THAT WE HAVE NEVER HEARD OF.

WE ARE A NATION OF BORN AMERICANS WITHOUT A
SAFETY NET. WE LOSE OUR JOBS TO LOWER PAID,
LESS EXPERIENCED, ILLEGAL WORKERS. WE DO NOT
HAVE ANY BENEFITS TO HELP US. YET, OUR LOCAL
HEALTH DEPARTMENTS AND HOSPITALS ARE BEGGING
THESE PEOPLE TO "COME AND GET MEDICAL CARE"
SHOULD WE FILE A DISCRIMANATION SUIT???

IN THE 1980'S I WORKED ON AN ORTHOPEDIC UNIT
IN TN. A GA. CHICKEN PROCESSOR BROUGHT A
12 YO HISPANIC BOY TO THE HOSPITAL WITH A
BROKEN ARM...HE WAS WORKING IN THE CHICKEN HOUSE.
WE NEVER SAW ANY FAMILY VISIT. THE BOY, WHO
DID NOT SPEAK ENGLISH, WAS LEFT ALONE. WE
TRIED TO COMFORT HIM AND COMMUNICATE WITH HIM.
PRIOR TO THAT I HAD WORKED OB-GYN. WE HAD
YOUNG HEALTHY TEEN-AGERS AND 20 YO'S COME IN
WITH BABY #3-6. HONEST. MOM, DAD AND THE
BABIES WERE ON WELFARE. THEY WERE ALL HEALTHY
AND ABLE TO WORK.

PLEASE EVERYONE WATCH THE "SICKO" MOVIE BY
MICHAEL MOORE. WE LAG BEHIND APX 36 COUNTRIES
IN HEALTH CARE. WE CANNOT GET INSURANCE, WE
CANNOT GET HEALTH CARE, WE CANNOT GET HOUSING,
TRANSPORTATION ETC. THEY WILL GIVE BILLIONS TO
THE WAR EFFORT. WE NEED TO ADOPT THE GUIDELINES
OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE FOR THE CITIZENS.

EVERY CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY, COULD BE GIVEN
ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR HEALTH CARE, AND OTHER
NEEDS. IT WOULD NOT EVEN BE MISSED IN THESE
BILLION DOLLAR WAR BUDGETS. MOST STATES HAVE
LOTTERIES..THEY STATE IT IS FOR EDUCATION. IS
IT NOT MORE SENSABLE TO HAVE A POPULATION THAT
GETS PREVENTIVE CARE AND ACUTE CARE FROM CRADLE
TO DEATH. IF ADULTS ARE NOT HEALTHY THEY CANNOT
TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN OR THEIR PARENTS.
SO THE STATES HAVE MORE CITIZENS THAT CANNOT
CONTRIBUTE. OUR MEDICAL COMMUNITY ALSO NEEDS
HANDS ON FROM THE GENERAL POPULATION. THEY SHOULD
ALL HAVE TO POST THEIR FEES. THEIR EDUCATION.
THEIR HISTORY. IF A DR. CHARGES 150.00 AN HOUR
AND HE SPENDS 15 MINUTES WITH YOU, SHOULD HE
GET THE TOTAL AMOUNT?? IF YOU DO NOT SPEND
24 HOURS IN A HOSPITAL ROOM SHOULD YOU BE
CHARGED FOR THE ENTIRE DAY??

THESE PEOPLE ARE BROUGHT HERE BY OUR BUSINESSES.
IF THEY GO BACK, THEIR REALTIVE OR FRIEND CAN
JUST TAKE THEIR PLACE. MORE MONEY IS SENT BACK
TO THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM THAN GOES BACK
INTO OUR ECONOMY. PUSHING EACH ONE OF US FUTHER
INTO BANKRUPTCY. THE KIND THAT BROUGHT ON THE
DEPRESSION...PLEASE NOTE, MOST OF THIS ARE ITEMS
THAT HAVE BEEN CHECKED AND DOCUMENTED. THIS IS
JUST A GENERAL OVERVIEW. THEY ARE IN EVERY STATE
IN THE UNION IT SEEMS. PLEASE PLEASE NOTE, THEY
ARE NOT ALL FROM SOUTH OF THE BOARDER. OUR
ENTIRE COUNTRY HAS PEOPLE THAT SHOULD NOT BE
HERE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.

MY FRIEND WORKS AT A PLACE THAT HAS SOUTH OF
THE BOARDER IMMIGRANTS. HIS YOUNG SUPERVISOR
IS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN (APX 25 YO) HE HAS
MADE IT REAL CLEAR TO HIM AND THE OTHER
AMERICANS THAT WORK THERE THAT HE WANTS THEM
GONE. HE GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO MAKE EVERYDAY
A BATTLE FOR THEM. DOES THE AMERICAN BASED
COMPANY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?? NOT IN THE LAST
FIVE YEARS. HE IS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. HE DOES
NOT LIKE THE BLACK WORKERS OR THE WHITE WORKERS.
I WOULD NOT HESITATE TO BET HE HAS ONE OF HIS
FRIENDS WAITING TO TAKE THESE POSITIONS. YET,
HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE THERE. HE IS NOT
ADEPT AT BEST. THAT IS FROM HIS AMERICAN
WIFE. THAT IS NOT HISPANIC.

ENJOYED ALL OF THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

MICHELLE

Posted by: MH at June 28, 2007 2:00 AM

united we stand divided we fall remember that?

Posted by: james at July 1, 2007 8:55 PM

Show me a white collar executive that is in jeopardy of losing his position to an illegal anybody?

Posted by: Ken Swanson at August 6, 2007 3:08 PM